Awesome Christian Music Links

If you were in on the 'Jesus People' movement at Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa, this music collection will prod a few memories of the past. The best part is the Holy Spirit will visit with you as you sit back and relax and enjoy this collection. I think these are 'Studio Masters' because the quality is excellent. This list makes great background music as you work on your computer etc...I turn it up and do my work. How wonderful it is to have the Holy Spirit visit us through these yielded vessels of the Lord Jesus Christ! PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!
Click here for a playlist of all songs below Vince Stapleton - Go In Peace.mp3 Download Listen Vince Stapleton - He Is.mp3 Download Listen Vince Stapleton - Hand To The Plow.mp3 Download Listen Barry McGuire - Love Is.mp3 Download Listen Children of the Day - For Those Tears.mp3 Download Listen Country Faith - Two Roads.mp3 Download Listen Debby Kerner - Behold I Stand At The Door.mp3 Download Listen Karen lafferty - Plan Of Love.mp3 Download Listen Keith Green - There is a Redeemer - First Love.mp3 Download Listen Love Song - Little Pilgrim-Final Touch.mp3 Download Listen Matthew Ward - To The King - First Love.mp3 Download Listen Mustard Seed Faith - All I Know.mp3 Download Listen Mustard Seed Faith - Back Home.mp3 Download Listen MSF - Can't Work Your Way to Heaven.mp3 Download Listen Mustard Seed Faith - Dried Up Well.mp3 Download Listen Oden Fong - He's Always There.mp3 Download Listen Selah - He Lives.mp3 Download Listen Honeytree - Doors And Windows.mp3 Download Listen Honeytree - Clean Before My Lord - First Love.mp3 Download Listen Honeytree - I See The Lord.mp3 Download Listen Honeytree - Pioneer - First Love.mp3 Download Listen Larry Norman - Elvis Has Left The Building.mp3 Download Listen

My Christian daughter says I'm going to hell

My Christian daughter says I'm going to hell

"I am the father of a 13-year-old daughter whose mother has been taking her to an evangelical Christian church her whole life. Her mother's family is entirely Christian. I am not a Christian, and in fact think that organized religion is actively harmful to her development into a rational adult. None of my friends are Christian, nor any of my family."

http://www.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2007/10/04/christianity/?source=whitelist

The Spiritual Subversion

The Spiritual Subversion

If the devil can by any methods, shut the Holy Spirit out of the church, he has effectively prevented the church from being God's church on earth. He accomplishes this by retiring from the church the agencies or agents that the Holy Spirit uses. Satan displaces them with natural devices that are rarely if ever the channels used by the Holy Spirit. Christ announced this unchangable, universal law when He said, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” John 3:6.

If a church has a holy preacher, a man of great prayerfulness, of great grace, filled with the Spirit, Satan will use any method to retire him and put in a man who does not pray, but who is eloquent and popular. The church may seem to have gained, but it has 'gained' by the substitution of natural forces for spiritual ones, an exchange that has unknowingly revolutionized the church.

E.M. Bounds

Mr Bounds was a Baptist 'prophet/teacher.' He knew what he was talking about. How many churches today are actually allowing the movement of the Holy Spirit in their midst? The government of God given to the church has ceased according to some of them. They tell us that we no longer need the government of God through the five fold ministry as recorded in the New Testament.

It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,...

EPHESIANS 4:11

Some would tell us that these governing agencys were only for the foundation of the church and are no longer needed because today we have the Bible. Well if that is the truth, then we no longer need evangelists or pastors or teachers. This list stands or falls as a whole.

Lets look at the next verses of this text:

12to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. 14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. 16From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

As long as there are new believers, there will be those who need to be 'built up' and taught. And EACH part will do its work. There will be spiritual infants who need the function of the ministries given to the church by the Holy Spirit. How unfortunate that there are those in pulpits across the land that would intellectually rob the church of the five fold ministry given to her by Jesus Christ. They worship at the alters of the intellect, teaching that the government of God, as given in Ephesians 4:11 is no longer needed, but of course THEY are needed.

Jesus Christ Himself GAVE these ministry gifts. For what purpose did He give these ministry gifts?

Ephesians 4:12

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.

For the perfecting of the saints. The Greek word KATARTISMOS translated 'perfecting," according to Vine's Espository Dictionary of New Testament Words, denotes a fitting or preparing fully, implying a process to consummation.
If one purpose for which the ministry gifts are given is the perfecting of the saints, will they ever reach maturity without them? No.
For the work of the ministry. For the edifying of the Body of Christ. For how long did He give the ministry gifts?

Ephesians 4:13

TILL WE ALL COME in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULNESS OF CHRIST.

These ministry gifts are Christ's own provision for the continual need for ministry in His Church until He comes for His Church.

An arroneous teaching which surfaced a few years ago stressed what is termed "body ministry." (And there is a certain truth to that. God does use everyone.) But some taught, "We don't need pastors and ministers any longer. God is not using ministers any more. God has a diffrent program now."

The Scripture says that He gave those gifts to men, TILL WE ALL COME...unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ."

Until Jesus comes, "all of us" will never come to that place of maturing of the saints until Christ comes for His own.

What is the ultimate aim in all ministry?

Ephesians 4:13-16

13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

The Church needs all-round spiritual growth to arrive at her destined perfection in Christ. Spiritual children are easily disturbed and swept about by false things. The ministry gifts Christ placed in the Church help us grow up into His image. We cannot reach that place without the function of the fivefold ministry.

Some areas of Christendom have not matured beyond a certain stage of growth because they recognize only two or three ministry gifts: evengelist and pastor, or sometimes teacher.

In summary: The ultimate aim of all ministry is not for self glory or to magnify the human in any way. It is entirely toward the Body of Christ. It takes all these ministries functioning to edify-build up-the Body of Christ.

Get out of those churches that teach that the five fold ministry has ceased. Get into Chruches that allow the full function of the gifts given by Christ for the work of the ministry. Satan has been at work ever since Jesus gave these ministrys, he has tried his best to eliminate them from the Body of Christ so the work of the ministry would suffer and be incomplete. There are good men who are moral who would try to convince you that the five fold ministry no longer exist. Who do you think is ultimately behind that lie? Why would Christ remove the very ministrys needed to build up His Church? Satan does that.

Where does Satan attack? Satan is always watching for any opportunity to attack the Church. If he can convince leadership that the five fold ministry given by Christ no longer exist, he can keep whole segments of the Body of Christ from maturing and being edifyed. Then there would be a lack of true spiritual growth. Satan attacks the strongest provision to the Church. The Holy Spirit and the five fold ministrys. He works and gains his spoils where the Christian slumbers in spiritual babyhood. Spiritual growth with constant sure spiritual development, are the surest safeguards against Satan's assualts. Constant growth keeps our eyes open and our hearts strong.

Satan wants to keep all of us babies. So he attacks the ministry offices, convincing who he may that the five fold ministry gifts no longer function within the Body of Christ. THAT IS A LIE FROM HELL designed to destroy the Body of Christ!

For more about the Five Fold Ministrys:

http://www.jimfeeney.org/apostlesandprophets.html

http://www.jimfeeney.org/giftsofholyspirit.html

Who’s Way - Man’s or God’s?

Who’s Way - Man’s or God’s?

As I awoke this morning I was thinking about the things the Lord has placed on my heart to do. I was also thinking of the spiritual atmosphere which seems to be so thick with oppression and depression, seeing so many walking in overwhelming situations. There is no doubt that darkness is hovering over us and around us. Nor is there any doubt that greater is He that is in us than he who is in the world. So I was questioning the Lord about our present situation as I made my way into the bathroom. Once there I glanced over to a set of papers I have sitting in the book/magazine rack that was about spiritual mapping. The Lord has said that He has given me authority over the Middlesex County in our state and I have been seeking Him and other resources as to what that means and what is to be done. But as I looked at that paper this morning I felt no solace, no peace as to that was what the Lord wanted me to do in regards to Middlesex County. In my heart I knew God had promised us that we have the victory in Christ Jesus and that we are ‘to take the land’ but we weren’t seeing much success in that regards. I questioned the Lord about that and I heard in my spirit, "Why do you follow after strategies of man when you have not done that which I have told you to do? Have I not said that the battle is mine?(a) Yet you think your strategic moves will overcome the enemy. If your prayers are lifted from disobedient vessels, I have no obligation to hear them and respond to them from heaven." Whoa! Those were some pretty heavy words, spoken to me but meant for all who say they follow after Him.

Immediately my mind went to Scripture and I could not remember anywhere that Jesus sat with His disciples or even spoke to the crowds about spiritual mapping or planning. Now, omission of this being written down for us doesn’t mean that it never took place. It just means that there are some "definites" that God wanted to make plain before all men. And it was those things that the Holy Spirit brought to my remembrance, flowing like a spring of water, "be ye holy as I am holy,"(b) "love the Lord they God with all they heart, soul, mind and strength,"(c) "love thy neighbor as yourself,(d) "preach the gospel to all the nations,"(e) "seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness,"(f) "forgive that you may be forgiven"(g), "turn your other cheek,"(h) ", "heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:"(i) "be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,"(j) "fear not,"(k) "lift one another in prayer,"(i) "consider another higher than yourself."(m) Surely the list can go on and on as I think of more as I type this. But the point is evident. Until we begin to do that which the Lord has told us to do He is under no obligation to back what we are doing, amen? Once we become more aware and involved with the battle that is taking place on in our own lives and submit our will to God’s will, no amount of prayers or planning or warring by tactics we believe to be spiritual will have any effect on the earth. We must yield our souls/our wills and mind to the Lord. The cross gave us victory over sin and salvation of our spirit man and enabled us to be born again to our heavenly Father’s family. Through Jesus our man spirit’s were born again in Holy Spirit and opened a world of possibilities to us. It did not guarantee all of these possibilities but it made them available to us. Being born into a family of doctor’s doesn’t guarantee that one will become a doctor. It does, however, give you the awareness that these possibilities are available to you. But in order to accomplish them you must go through the training, schooling and dedication achieved through sacrifice that makes it a reality. So it is in the spiritual realm. In order for us to be like Jesus we must go through the training, learning, dedication and sacrifice that brought His destiny into fulfillment. Coming into alignment with God’s Word is a necessity for every believer. Loving the Lord our God with all that we are must be a priority in our lives. And we come to know the Father through the Son. Hallelujah! If we do not do this first, we will come into the battlefield ill-equipped and easy prey for the enemy and will make little, if any progress.

The Holy Spirit is taking us to a period of training, if you will. In the natural, when one joins an army they first have to go through a physical to see if they are accepted in. In the spiritual realm, the only thing that qualifies us is having Jesus as our Lord. It is His life, death and resurrection that qualifies us into the door. Once we are admitted in we must go through training. No one goes into the battlefield without some short of training in the natural. So it must be for us in the spiritual as well. In the natural there is a Sergeant who will take us through the drills we need to go through to build up our physical and emotional strength. In the spirit realm it is the job of the Holy Spirit to do this. Now there are many who do not hear the voice of the Holy Spirit, still being babes in the Lord. So the Holy Spirit can either speak directly to us or He can speak to us through apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers who God has set in place for the equipping of the saints (Ephesians 4:11-13). In the natural army the Sergeant brings forth the instructions of the Company Commander to the new recruits and those under his command. In the spiritual the Holy Spirit hears from the Company Commander, Christ Jesus, and brings forth that instruction to those who are under His leadership. Also in the natural, there is the Commander-in-Chief who is over all the armies and it is from him that the Company Commander and the Sergeant and others in leadership receive their instructions. In the Spiritual Army it is God Almighty, our heavenly Father, who is the Commander-in-Chief and He has given leadership and authority to others through our Lord, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. So, to try and enter spiritual battle without this leadership set in place in our lives and like committing suicide. We become open targets for the enemy to shot at. Is there any wonder that there are so many casualties in the body of Christ. So many don’t want to go through the training, the refining that is needed so that we will become productive and worthy opponents against the enemy camp.

Sometimes the poor equipping of the saints does not rest in those who come to leadership for training. Unfortunately, there are many in leadership position who are like rogues, trying to do things their own way without the leadership of the Holy Spirit directing them. Those like this are a dangerous commodity bringing hardship not only to themselves but to those who are under them. They bear no fruit for the kingdom of God and wound many innocent saints. But that is not to excuse those who are found under their false leadership. We are living in a day of great accountability before our God. Each one must know our God and our Lord through His Word, both written and revealed. Each one who becomes a child of God has the opportunities to do the things that Jesus did while He was on the earth and more. But they must follow the order and the direction of the Lord, doing His will and not our own. We must allow the Holy Spirit to direct us and teach us that which we are to know and do. The Holy Spirit will direct us to the will of our Company Commander, Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit reveals Christ to us in an unprecedented way, not only through the written word but through revelation. Without coming to know our Lord Who saved us and loved us enough to die for us we will be poor soldiers in this battle. And it is our Company Commander Who gets His instructions from the Commander-in-Chief, our heavenly Father. They are One so to know Jesus is to know our heavenly Father. Hallelujah! It is through this line of command that we become equipped to be in the Army of God. To just try and enter the battlefield without going through this process will make us ineffective or worse, casualties.. Just following after man’s revelation will not bring us the victory. What God might desire to speak to us could be different than what He has spoken to others.

That is not to say that spiritual mapping is not God’s will. I am seeking Him on that. But what is essential to all believers is to go through the process that will then qualify us to enter into the throne room where strategies for warfare is revealed. Just as the question was posed to me this morning, I present it for your consideration as well, ""Why do you follow after strategies of man when you have not done that which I have told you to do?…" Let us consider that question today and be honest with our answer as we think upon whose way or will we are doing, God’s or man’s?

So many are weary of the battle we are in, myself included. We must remember that the battle belongs to the Lord. There is no doubt that we are in the midst of the battlefield. But in order to see the victory take place we must become like Him our Lord, transformed into His image by our thoughts, words and actions being in alignment with His. Hallelujah! Let the training commence, in Jesus’ name!

Praying to be in His Army, Joan Bowe

Footnotes:

(a) -1 Samuel 17:47(b) - 1 Peter 1:16(c) - Luke 10:27(d) - Luke 10:27 (e) - Matthew 28:19(f) - Matthew 6:33(g) - Matthew 6:15(h) - Matthew 5:39(i) - Matthew 10:8(j) - Romans 12:2(k) - Matt. 10:31, Luke 2:10, Luke 12:7,32, Romans 8:15, 2 Timothy 1:7, Hebrews 13:6, 1 John 4:18, Revelation 1:17(l) - James 5:16(m) - Philippians 2:3

Stan Frisbee

The Lord showed me a large arrow in our front room at a meeting. I knew that the arrow represented the group. The arrow in unity.

I started to teach about the arrow from what piece of the puzzle I had. I knew the arrowhead represented frontline breakthrough people (forerunners). When I said that, my wife, Diane, said "If you are part of the arrowhead, I must be part of the feathers." She was right! We knew about the head and the tail, but we did not know about the middle (shaft). So we pondered as a group.

One day as I was pondering these things, I was reading a book, "A Divine Confrontation" by Graham Cooke, in which he was describing a spear. The front of the spear represented the breakthrough people, and then he gave me the answer to the shaft.The shaft represented the "enablers" who put feet and muscle to get the idea or the vision done. The Lord gives pieces of the puzzle. We hold what we have, then we listen, look, and ponder. We can get the picture of revelation that God wants us to have. Then, those pictures become like keys that open doors of opportunity and more revelation.

1.The arrowhead represents the forerunners, or breakthrough people (the cutting-edge, frontline people). Graham Cooke calls them "Initiators."

2. The shaft of the arrow represents the "enablers," the people in the church or home group who line up with the vision or idea. They help get the thing done.

3. The feathers on the arrow represent the people in the back. They help bring balance and guidance.

In a vision, the Lord showed me an arrow. By a word of knowledge I knew the arrow represented "corporate unity," like in a church or home group.

The bow without the string = no power. The Word without the Spirit = no power. The string without the bow = no foundation. The Spirit without the Word = no structure.

The string = The Spirit
The bow = The Word
The arrow = us
The arrow is positioned in the bow = "Radical Middle"

With everything in its designed placement, you have balance and power. When the church or home group, or individual lines up with God's Word and Spirit, like the arrow lining up with the bow, we can be shot out with purpose and direction.

Stan Frisbee

2019 Federal Avenue

Costa Mesa, CA 92627

Home phone: 949-548-4726

Cell phone: 949-280-2797

Home group every Monday evening, call to confirm...sometimes "gone fishing."