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Wednesday, March 22, 2017

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 I received an email from a Christian organization today.


What you read above is the outline of the email with a few things changed by me to make a point,

I inserted the day of Pentecost instead of their Prophetic conference and I changed the names of their important star people who will be there.
  1. Wonder if there ever would have been a Pentecost if it was trapped behind a paywall
  2. Would the wind have blown?
  3. Would there have been tongues of fire?
  4. Would everyone have heard their own language being spoken?
  5. Would Peter's friends and family been able to pay up to gain access to the event?

2 Timothy 3New International Version (NIV)

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

A Final Charge to Timothy

10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferings—what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. 
Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 
14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 
2 Timothy 4:3

Is Praying Just An Optional Christian Formality Or Is It Something Productive And Essential?

 This teaching will help you to understand how you can start getting more results in your prayer life and how to become more tuned into the Lord as well.

How many of us just pray every now and then and really have no prayer life per say?

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could become more focused and start to see things that we thought were impossible take place as a result of our intentional prayers?

 

Here is a little guidance in starting us out on a good path towards obtaining a healthy prayer life before Jesus Christ.


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Have you noticed that the biggest factor in your walk with God is that you fail to wait on the Lord, you fail to read the Word and you fail to pray?

And how about fasting?

It is those tfour things that really bother you, and if you could have something that could start you on track- if somebody in the morning could give you a little push so that at least you got started, you know that the day would be all right.

But as it is, you get to hurrying around and the first thing you know, it's the middle of the afternoon and you think, "I haven't prayed."

Evening comes, and before you go to bed, you read the Word and pray, feeling a guilty conscience, "I
should have been praying; I should have waited on the Lord.

All day long I didn't do what I should have done."

This is very common.

But I can give you a key so that each day can be lived in the Spirit, and that day will see you walking along in at least a measure, if not all, of what God has for you.


  Take five minutes- five minutes as soon as you're wide awake.

Five minutes won't hurt you: you can brush your teeth in that time, but in five minutes you could do something that would help you all through that day.

Suppose you start out with a verse of Scripture, maybe something predetermined the night before, or planned for a whole week, so you don't go leafing through the Bible.

The verse that you are going to use is priming the pump, so that you get the water started in the morning.

One verse of Scripture, then you pray and open your heart to the Lord very simple.

Just a couple of minutes of prayer, and then you pause, and open your heart, "Lord, I open my heart to You to lead me today."

This is the way you start.

Now you may know that in the next ten minutes you're going to come back and read the Word for half an hour.

You may be prepared to spend two hours in prayer; but on the other hand, the unexpected may come to wipe you out.

Or, you may find that there's a schedule to keep.

If you have an appointment in the morning, you've got to move.

But you've started something: now you won't be going to the appointment or to school with self-condemnation, thinking, "I didn't start right: I didn't get to pray this morning. I didn't wait on the Lord," approaching the day with something less than faith.

You've taken five minutes and stirred your self into the realm of the spirit.


You have opened your spirit to God.

You will do your exercises to get yourself in shape, eat your morning oats or rice, swallow your wheat germ oil or something- you feel like you've got to get yourself going- but you fail to remember that your spirit has to wake up too, and your spirit has to be activated for the day.

Some people wake up physically, right away.

Other people are slow to do it.

But whether you wake up quick or late physically and mentally, you still can awaken your spirit to God and you've given your spirit something of the Word of God to reach into.

Then it's very easy the rest of the day to develop a hunger.


  You can take your Bible, a little sermon- something that you are going to read- with you to work, or wherever you are.

Put it in your lunch, if you take a lunch.

Remember now, it is just as necessary to sustain your spirit as your body, so you take something to feed your spirit.

Make always that opportunity when you get the coffee break, a little rest period, the rest room, or when you get any time during the day where you can stop.

It is surprising how you can meditate at a stop light.

Nothing in the world can interrupt you until they start honking behind you!

  It's almost like a thing of spiritual isometrics, because already you have started; you are beginning to look for places to make that contact with God, times in which you can almost dial out the conscious level and reach through to that sweet fellowship with the Lord.


Isometrics is motionless exercise- you strain against an immovable object and it is beneficial for the muscle tone of your whole body.

Suppose you do the same thing spiritually?

Would you like to know how to let your faith grow?

Would you like to know how to begin to exercise yourself spiritually and really grow?

Spirit's don't have muscles; they move entirely through authority, not through your muscles.

The physical man moves through muscles, but the spiritual man moves through the authority and as he submits to the Lord, he moves into greater authority.


Everybody should have their little isometric spiritual list.

Would you like to know how to make a list of spiritual isometrics, so that through the day you can begin to test yourself or exercise on them and find that spiritually you begin to grow?

It's very simple: only one little principle to follow.

Make a list ahead of time, carry it in a notebook, write it on a little three by five inch card: or, if you have a good memory, remember it.

(With all of the aerial sprayed aluminum powders being released in the sky through chemtrails today, most people find that their  memories are being greatly impaired.)

But on this list, if you list the impossible things, things that you have not been able to believe for- for the church, for the pastor, for yourself- some circumstances or problem that to you seems impossible.

You could list something that you want for yourself, in this walk with God, that you've never been able to have.

All of these are possibilities.

It would even be better to stay away from yourself and stop and think, "Now who is the most impossible character in the church?

Who is the most difficult one to help?"

Then you write down what they need, as far as you can understand it.

You may have five or six things, maybe more.

But don't get too many; just tackle the hard ones.

And every time you have a break, worship the Lord and then get some Scripture, some promise ( do it originally each time), and say, "Lord, I'm going to believe for this."


You set your heart to believe it and exercise it, and you're claiming it.

You're straining at the immovable object according to your spirit, and it's surprising how your spirit keeps drawing from the Lord, appropriating it, and the impossible is done.


  I'm giving you keys on how to walk with the Lord, how to be a spiritual individual.

Write down the Scripture that you started out with in the morning on a three by five inch filing card, with the reference on the other side.

You're going to memorize both of them during the course of the day.

You have started out to open your spirit up to God through that verse.

All day long stand on that promise and pray over it and meditate on it.

  Paul wrote to Timothy and told him to remember the prophecies over him that by them he might war a good warfare.

( Does your church or fellowship exercise prophecy?)

If you'd like to war a really good warfare, make a little capsule summary of what God has said about
you.

Sometimes just a few words will remind you: "I'm going to be a handmaiden of the Lord."

"I'm going to be a prophet ( or a prophetess) of the Lord."

"I'm going to have a discerning of spirits," "I'm going to prophesy", or just write "prophecy," or whatever it is you are to do or be.

Jot down also the prophecies.

Then whenever you have a free minute, do what Paul told Timothy, "Meditate on these things; give yourself wholly to them and your profiting will appear to all."

Make a business of being spiritual, and every time you get the chance, turn your eye away from the passing parade, the consensus orthodoxy of the world around you.


Look back to that which is important, the prophecy over you, the Scripture, the verse of Scripture, and reach into the Lord.

Don't say, "Forget that! I pray when ever I feel like it."

When you don't have a plan or have a simple course, you say it, but you don't do it.

  Anybody, for a few bucks, can buy a set of dumb-bells or a bar-bell set and a few exercises to do.

Thousands upon thousands of people buy those sets, and they sit in the garages or attics or wherever they've been stored, and they're not growing muscles on anybody.

But if a man pays for a years membership in a gym and he's going to get specialized training, he is taking on an extra load.

He has to come home, get whatever he's going to work out in, make a trip to the gym through the traffic.

He has to change, he has to work out, then take a shower, redress and drive back home.

It's a lot more complicated than coming home and going out into the garage and running through a few exercises.

But he'll do that, rather than work out with something simple.

Why?

Because he'll think, "well, I'll work out tomorrow."

But something is demanded: "This is my gym day; this is my day to work out."

It's the same way with school; anybody can get a good book and sit down and read it and probably get more out of it than they'll get out of a college course, using the same book as a text.

But because it's required to be there at a certain hour and certain days and they have to pass the examination, they bone up on it.

An average high school graduate in a year's time could have a college education, if they were a good reader and had nothing to impede their progress.

Four years of college could be cut to less than twenty-five percent of the time , with lasting benefits and knowledge that could be applied, because much of that is just wasted time when they're in college.

But they won't, because they don't discipline themselves.

Now the same thing is true in the spirit.

If you say, "Well, I'll do it when the mood hits me," you'll never do it.

But set yourself to do certain little things systematically.

You have your promises, you've started yourself off for the day, you have a prophecy, you have
a little resume', you have some spiritual isometrics, impossible things that you're testing your faith on.

Let yourself come into a full focus.

A good way is to get mad about something.

Write down something that your really angry about.

Tackle something that stirs you up- something that you can get your teeth into.

Is there something in the church that is irritating you?

Would you say, "There's something in my home that aggravates me?

There's something in my family that aggravates me.

There are some things in me personally that aggravate."

Those are the things that you write down for your isometrics.

Lose your temper over losing your temper.

Do something like that.

These are the things that you are putting your faith to.

Find the thing that has wiped you out the most often, where you've been defeated so often.

That's where your going to put your isometrics.

Every day you're going to believe on that thing.

This is the wisdom of Solomon.

It is practical teaching.


  Now this will help you to develop one deep underlying feeling in your spirit that will get you away from the deadliness of saying, "Well, I'm going to start walking with the Lord tomorrow.

Next week, things are going to change, I'm going to work some things around and I'm going to start walking  with God."

Isn't that what people feel?

Instead of that, think, "Oh, I contacted the Lord! I'm started."

It took only five minutes, you've started and your working at it all day.

All day long, you've got the good little feeling "I am walking with God!

I am a part of this church, a part of the thing that's functioning and moving."

And in that little prayer in the morning, you could say one thing, "This day, today, Lord, I open my spirit up that I'll be a participating member.

Whatever is happening in the whole place- if there's anybody under a burden, Lord, just lay it on me and let me pray with them, too."

Suddenly, you will sense the Body.

You'll come to church, to the house of God and look around thinking, "Isn't it wonderful?

This is what I'm part of.

I'm living in it, I'm walking in it, every single day.

Oh, how delightful!"


  You can be out in the business world so much, that before you realize it, you've adjusted yourself to it's thinking.

If you're in a world of red, after a while you are not aware of red.

If you're in a world of blue, after a while  you're not aware of blue.

But if you keep coming back to the spiritual world you will always see the contrast.

Your discernment will be ten times sharper; you'll quickly sense what is wrong.


If you don't, you get swallowed up with the thing that it has overwhelmed you and you miss seeing; you don't have the sense of contrast between the spiritual things and the things that are not of God.

It will keep a business woman or man really sharp, if they keep going to the Spirit.

This will help anyone who might be snowed under in their desire to conform to the business world.

They get trapped.

They get taken in, they become oppressed.

Constantly going back and forth through the realm of  spirit keeps you from becoming a business man during the day and a man of God and a family man at night.

It keeps the whole thing in balance.


 Image result for prayer As you are praying and remembering promises that have come over people, write them down and your faith becomes definite.

 God didn't say, "Keep on praying and lots of things are just bound to happen."

He said, "whatsoever you ask."

Writing out, "this is what I believe for that person; this is what God said, " makes it definite.

"Whosoever" boils down to a specific individual.

"Whatsoever you shall ask" boils it down to a specific promises.

Sometimes it's good not to be praying about everything.

You can be bogged down in tedious detail.

Did you ever notice that a service becomes nonspiritual where you throw it open to a lot of prayer requests?

Why?

The people have lost their focus.


They're not tackling the things that count, but are just praying about little things that count, but are just praying about little things here and there.

It's just like buck shot, scattered all over everywhere and it isn't doing anything.

But when you get right down in your prayers, aim at something that is really important.

Ask yourself, "What's the most important prayer that I could make in this church?

What's the impossible thing to believe for?

And stay with it.

It's like the old kingpin, you hit that and everything else falls.


  Write this down: "First thing in the morning, take a little step."


Not a big one, take a little step.

That makes you a self-starter, just a little Scripture that starts you, just a little prayer, "Well, I have to
get things going, get the kids off to school, then I'll settle down and I'm going to pray an hour."

How many times has that backfired?

So take a little step and start yourself in the spirit and you can ward off everything else, the inertia, becoming self-centered.

Take one little step.


  Have you ever heard someone say, "Boy, have I had a big Thanksgiving dinner!

I'm not going to eat anything for a week."

Probably before sundown you were back at the table for more, because you started something in motion.

These notes that you have taken down about what you are going to do the first thing in the morning will do that- start everything in motion.


  This is very important: start out with a thought in the conscious mind that opens the spirit.

By repetition of this promise and prophecy through the day, the thought becomes an attitude.

Attitudes are in the subconscious as well as the conscious.

By repetition the thought becomes an attitude.

You want to get to the place where you don't have to stop and think when you are under pressure, "Well, how do I react?"

You react according to the attitude of heart which is one of faith.

You have the Scripture, you have the prophecy.

By constant repetition, that thought becomes an attitude.

You don't work at that very many times until your spirit, in every situation, will respond right.

The Gift Of Discernment

I frequently visit an ordained pastors blog.


There is one thing he is fond of saying every now and then, "There is no gift of discerning of spirits!"


His tone behind the statement is as if anyone who believes there is a gift of discernment is in error.

So let's take a look and see if the man is correct in his statement or is it he who is in error?

Spiritual Gifts Series: The Gift Of Discernment 

The spiritual gift of discernment is also known as the gift of "discernment of spirits" or "distinguishing between spirits."

 The Greek word for the gift of discernment is Diakrisis.

The word describes being able to distinguish, discern, judge or appraise a person, statement, situation, or environment.

 In the New Testament it describes the ability to distinguish between spirits as in 1 Corinthians 12:10, and to discern good and evil as in Hebrews 5:14.


The Holy Spirit gives the gift of discernment to enable certain Christians to clearly recognize and distinguish between the influence of God, Satan, the world, and the flesh in a given situation.

The church needs those with this gift to warn believers in times of danger or keep them from being led astray by false teaching.  See also I Corinthians 12:10, Acts 5:3-6; 16:16-18; 1 John 4:1.

A very good question.

The Bible teaches that all Christians should grow in spiritual discernment.

For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.- Hebrews 5:12-14

Paul told the Thessalonians:Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.- 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22

While he encouraged the Thessalonians not to discount or dismiss the Holy Spirit - by despising that which was being taught as coming from God (prophecy) - Paul instructed them to test everything.

In other words, if someone preaches or teaches something that he or she claims was inspired by God, we are not to despise it - which would result in quenching the Holy Spirit.

However, we are to carefully examine that which is being taught.

Earlier, Luke called the people of Berea - where Paul and Silas had been sent to preach - "more noble-minded that those in Thessalonica," because they received the word with great eagerness, examining [anakrino] the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men.- Acts 17:11-12

Thus the Bereans did not quench the Spirit, but rather tested what was being taught, using Scripture as their guide.

The only way to grow in spiritual discernment is by relying on the guidance of the Holy Spirit who indwells every true Christian, and by studying God’s Word, the Bible.

These two go hand-in-hand.

The Bible provides the standard against which all teachings must be tested: 

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.- 2 Timothy 3:16-17

This reliance both on the guidance of the Holy Spirit and on God’s Written Word should keep Christians focused on God.

If Christians were to rely only on their ability to listen to the Holy Spirit, they would leave themselves open to all manner of private teachings and interpretations - without any rules by which to rest such revelations.

At the same time, it they were to rely only on their own ability to interpret and apply the Scriptures, they would leave no room for God’s guidance in revealing to them the riches of his Word.

As Christians our focus should always be on the living God, with whom we have an interactive relationship.

No Christian is an island. There is much to be learned from one another, as we share the wisdom and insights God has revealed to us from His Word, by His Holy Spirit.

Sadly, though, many Christians leave the responsibility for discernment almost completely up to others. Their guidance comes primarily from televangelists, authors (and, more often than not, their ghost writers), their pastors, or their favorite websites.

That’s like being spoon-fed by someone else - marking one as an infant, rather than as a mature Christian:

For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.- Hebrews 5:12-14

By all means, let’s learn from one another - eagerly receiving the word, while also examining everything carefully.

Christians who believe that the Spiritual Gifts are still available today, see the gift of "distinguishing between spirits" (discerning whether they are human, from God, or demonic), to be a special form of discernment (revealed, instead of learned): 

Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.- 1 Corinthians 12:7-11

In Moses day there was the pillar of fire by night and the cloud by day.

They followed the pillar of fire at night. The desert can get real cold at night, if you refused to follow the fire you got cold. The desert can get very hot during the day, if you refused to follow the cloud you had no shade and fried in the hot sun overhead. Therefore it made very good sense to follow the pillar of fire and the cloud where ever they would go.

Spiritual discernment : calling on the Holy Spirit to lead or give direction on a matter.

It is how the Spirit shows the church or its people what God wants them to do and be.

There is discernment of :

  • gifts,

  • spirits,

  • actions,

  • intents,

  • the spirit of the times we live in.

Discernment is more than just a skill. Discernment is a gift from God before it is anything else. Yet there are clearly skills you put to use in using your gift, and you can become better at it through training and experience.

Discernment is more than just a process.
 Even for the most 'material' or 'nitty-gritty' matters, there is a Spirit at work nudging us, leading us, even pulling us by the nose ring. Even for the most 'spiritual' matters, there are disciplines, methods, processes, means, and tools which the Spirit can work through to help us discern rightly. Discernment isn't usually a sudden zap from beyond, but something which emerges from hard work.

Learn to discern. Yearn to discern.

We have to discriminate between what is true and what is false, ... between what is primary and what is secondary, between what is central and what is peripheral.

When the Spirit is on the move, it's characterized by:

Christ-centered spirituality in every aspect of life;

Rejection of all prejudice, class/ethnic/educational barriers, exclusiveness, and denominational warfare. When it follows the Spirit, the Body of Believers knowingly chooses to counter-model prejudices by living without regard to them.

(The Christians on the net who have delved into politics have demonstrated that they are not the least concerned with "Christ centered spirituality.

I got an email yesterday from a good brother that was full of venom and bitter root judgment that was totally carnal and very politically biased. )

Bringing attention and worship to Jesus Christ, and awareness of God's/Jesus'/Spirit's work.

An unusual level of passion, energy, or impact.

These are the main things to look for in discerning about something:

*it is governed by love, for if it is not, it's worthless ( 1 Corinthians 13:1-3);

*it centers us onto Jesus the Christ and Lord ( 1 Cor 12:3), and His good news;

*it directs us to Scripture, not away from it ( Isaiah 8:19, 20);

*it builds up the church and its members ( Ephesians 4:11-12), giving it power, wisdom, character, boldness, and unity.

*it helps create in us a love of righteousness, a heightened sense of sin, and a turning away from known evil.

'Discernment' is sometimes used as a catch-word for speaking against others (as with some
'discernment ministries' that pollute the internet), or to defeat them in a struggle for power or influence, or just to pick at them until they quit or retreat.

Discerning eyes look for whether something that's labeled 'discernment' is done from love, or whether it just is a clanging gong or a noisy cymbal.

Jesus didn't call us to love ideas, he called us to love people. John put it as bluntly as he could :

"One who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
(I John 4:8)

When discerning, the Christian must keep in mind why he/she is doing it.

 Ask yourself, "If I raise this issue, how am I pointing people to Christ? How am I helping them grow in the Spirit? In what way am I loving them?"

 If there's no answer to those questions, or if you have to stretch far and wide to come up with a complicated or weak answer, then it's best not to speak. Indeed, it's time to focus on listening, because it may be your time to learn.

The New Testament passes along the testimony of those who knew Jesus and His mission in person. For the early church after the apostles, for the Reformers, and for us today, believers turn to Scripture because they know the Spirit speaks there.

It is Scripture which shows us the Spirit's priorities, and Scripture which shares with us the vision of the coming Kingdom. The Spirit works through Scripture, not against it.

Through the Bible, you can discover wisdom and direction. Without it, you'll fail to distinguish God's Purposes and Word from your purposes and words.

This is true of what you think and do today, and it's also true of the past, including the most treasured of traditions. If the new or the old stands against Scripture or is used to thwart its central thrusts, we must stand with Scripture, or we will fall for anything.

This 'Scripture principle' is not there to hold the Spirit in chains. It's to be used in the light of freedom in Christ, knowing that Scripture does not directly address most matters. Instead of demanding direct 'Scriptural warrant' for a practice or course of action, it's better to seek these signals :

  • that Scripture does not speak against it;

  • that the practice or teaching conveys the Gospel, and is fully in keeping with the root and heart of Christian belief found in Scripture;

  • that it turns the focus onto Christ, not persons, ideas, ideologies, organizations, wondrous signs, or activities;

  • that it is truthful, not rooted in a lie or distortion.

If these are all true, then no direct warrant is needed from Scripture, tradition, or for that matter, sometimes even from common sense. The Spirit has every right to lead us into new things that look like folly. The Holy Spirit is sovereign. Discernment is about finding out if it's the Holy Spirit and not someone else's folly.

There are some people who could stuff themselves with Scripture until it came out their noses, and they'd still refuse to let the Spirit teach them anything. They're not discerning at all; they're seeking support, not truth.

 For the rest of us, the patient, prayerful, steady study of Scripture brings many rewards. The Spirit rewards such diligent listening by developing within us an understanding of why God acted in the past. Since the same God is acting today toward the same purposes, this gives you a sense of what God is doing now and what role you may have in it.

The Scripture principle is not a substitute for the Spirit. It works only because the Spirit works through Scripture. We rely on this truth when we read the Scriptures in earnest prayer. Without the Spirit's action, the Bible's pages would lay still, moving your life no more than a dictionary or encyclopedia. If the Spirit is working in us, the Bible is aflame with truth and vision for every corner of our lives and for the whole world.

The Spirit wants us to study, to trust, and to shape our lives according to what is in Scripture; to steep it into our souls, to live by the contours and the world vision of the Scriptures. No one can prove that the Bible is the authentic story of God's dealings with humanity. That has to be shown to each of us by the Holy Spirit.

Anyone who denies the authority of the written Word in/for the church comes real close to bypassing the Christ who is the living Word of God, and who is what the written Word is about. We cannot just nakedly 'go by the fruit' of the Spirit, because it is Scripture which tells us what fruit we are to look for, and in what contexts they are the work of the Spirit.

Without the Bible, we can't accurately recognize what is from God, or tell it from what's fake.

There is another warning to be given here. You can have God-gifted leaders, go through prayerful discernment, decision-making, and accountability processes, and even have things start to go well. But the surest way for them to turn wrong is to start telling others that your decisions are "God's will". That's something known in the distant future, if at all.

It's a pretty big boast, if you think about it : you know what the Almighty knows. Most believers and non-believers alike rightly dismiss such talk. And pride does come before a fall. Decision-making isn't always a matter of the thunderous "Will Of God", and even when it is, you may not have it right. This is a reason the Spirit builds humility into people.

Scripture shapes an authentic Spirit-led experience, and sets the bounds for it. When looking for the course and purposes of what God is doing, Scripture ranks first.

Discernment is more than the work of an individual person. The Spirit acts within the gathered believers (the Church) so they can discern what to do and be. Within that context, specific persons may be given the gift for leading the church as it discerns. Such gifted people are given a 'spiritual eye' for cutting through facades and confusion, for getting to the heart of the matter.

They listen closely, notice what's happening in the world around them, and instinctively know what place it has in God's plans. Someone who's gifted in discernment of spirits can find where evil lurks in good things, and where the Spirit is working when things are going wrong.

When the church was starting out, there was only one way she could learn the faith: on her feet. The church had to learn while she was doing. The Spirit had to teach the Christians how to love at the same time as moving them to act on that love, and teaching them mercy at the same time as empowering them to live merciful lives.

Christians sometimes forget that what we teach and discuss is inevitably our own understanding of Scripture. Other understandings, if drawn from Scripture and open to be judged by Scripture, are possible and even faithful. We discern to learn.

That's why it's so valuable to have the input from 2000 years of churchgoing Christians (tradition) and the billion Christians of today (fellowship). Meaning springs out of life; the Spirit's way is lived and experienced. Even more: it is lived and experienced as a part of those who believe in Jesus and his good news, a Body of Followers whose members are formed and shaped in this way, as found in Scripture.

This community teaches each other, recalls history, shares their experiences, and affirms each others value. It (sometimes) has the strength to say no and to get each of us to amend our understandings and change our ways when we're going astray, and to show a more excellent way in all things.

When you're being checked by the church, you're being checked by others who have also done patient, prayerful, steady study of Scripture. The Spirit didn't give a sense of God's purposes only to you but also to others, in a slightly different way for each of them.

If they didn't study God's ways, they won't have that sense, and thus are a less trustworthy part of the discernment process. (You'll never find out one way or the other unless you listen carefully, and have the guts to put away any defensive reactions you might have.)

Church actions should be set up to discern the right direction before it acts, to keep effective tabs on it while it acts, and to debrief after it acts, taking whatever disciplinary actions or clarifying lessons are needed. Do this, expecting that the Spirit will lead, if really asked and really given a chance to lead.

One drawback of the church's role in discernment is that it is made up of people. (It's a benefit in more ways, but here's one way it's also a drawback.) People are strange, and sometimes do wrong. They are not all-knowing, and have badly-damaged understandings.

They can be fooled. People love to be sweet talked, to be showered with puffery and to get their egos
stroked. They push aside what's bad news for the camp they're in. It's easy to become a yes-man or get stuck in the 'no' position. These facts must be kept in mind when discerning with the church. But remember too that these things are also true of you. Your role in discernment requires checking and re-checking and cross-checking, and so does the church's.

Neither you nor the communicated Word nor the Church local or universal are the bridge between the biblical events and our putting the Word into living effect. It is the Holy Spirit's doing.

Like everything else in this world, our discernments are bound by our imperfections and thus can be false or shallow or merely mistaken. But it helps greatly to have the right attitude toward it :

Make sure you can be held accountable by specific trusted people, on small things as well as large ones;

Allow those others to actually do it. Don't fight back nor blindly accept, but pay attention and be a servant about it;

Be ready to hold others accountable, if need be - even if that makes you uncomfortable.

This way, you become less bound by attitudes and actions which block your discernment.

One of the keys to discernment is surrender. If you treat "I" as the emperor of all things, you won't be in the right place to find out what God wants of you. In fact, this selfish imperial view of existence lies at the heart of all sin : we act as if we're God, even though we certainly know better. The emperor 'I' has no clothes.

So we need to set aside what we want and what we've been taught, and join with Jesus in His prayer in the face of His most ultimate decision : "Yet not as I will, but as You will." (Matt 26:39).

Another key to discernment is a 'sense of peace' about something. That peace must take place not by itself, but within the rest of the framework of discernment, or it's not divine.

Yet the absence of such peace is, by itself, bad news. Such peace and security comes and grows with prayer. Peace is a gift God is more than happy to give. God wants us to have some sense of security about what we do. Since God is not a God of confusion, it will not do in God's purposes for God's followers to be confused, or be confusing.

Some hints which confirm: --- a chance encounter with just the right person; --- a thought or conviction that keeps growing; --- something from the Bible which comes to mind; --- something said in conversation which keeps coming to mind; --- an opportunity which suddenly opens up. --- it 'bites back', becoming harder to stop the more you or anyone else tries to hold back.

These hints mean nothing by themselves, but can mean a lot when taken together.

A decision empowers you to act. When you don't decide, you give power to someone or something else to make the decision. So if there is not a clear sense of direction from the Spirit, it could be a hint that God didn't want you or your church to decide anything.

 If so, then let things happen as they will, leaving it in the hands of others whom God is calling forward. It is just as likely, though, that you're just ducking the question. The best way to discern the difference is :

If the search for leadings from the Spirit finds nothing or almost nothing (as against having an unclear or conflicted sense of leading);

if there is a specific someone who is clearly stepping forward;

if that specific someone is doing this out of concern or love and not a drive for power.

It may take a lot of humility to admit that you are not God's chosen one and you don't hold the reins of power. But in fact, you don't; God does, and God will work through people other than yourself or your group.

There is a harbor in Greece with a very narrow opening that has shallow rocks on both sides of the opening just under the water that can't be seen. If one doesn't know exactly where to enter this protected harbor there could be hull damage. There are three lights set up on poles about 50 feet from one another in a straight line. The helmsman knows that if he sees three lights he is off course, the same if he sees two lights. When he sees only one light he knows that it is safe to proceed into the harbor because he is lined up with the narrow entrance perfectly. All the lights line up and appear as one.

Discernment is like that. One light is our sense of inner peace by the Holy Spirit. Another light is the Word of God. And the other light is confirmation through others or through the 'highlighting' language of the Holy Spirit. when they all line up as one it is safe to proceed forward.

Remember: "When in doubt, DON'T.

"God never gives us discernment in order that we may criticize, but that we may intercede." ------ Oswald Chambers

"I never learned anything while I was talking."------ Larry King

"Conflating modern-day intuition, etc. with the real Spirit is like confusing a gentle breeze with a tornado. If the real Spirit were really working in the post-apostolic church, it would be just as ambiguous as a cyclone." ------ online comment.

"Discerning and acting on God's will does not mean you'll never have difficult days or feel lousy sometimes. But choosing to live in alignment with God makes you more joyful, compassionate, and peaceful, even on bad days."
------ Debra K. Farrington, *Hearing with the Heart*

"The majority of historic heresy is based on an interpretation of the written not the living word. The 'living word' -- which is the Word in action through the gifts of the Spirit -- is all application and totally subjected in interpretation to the body of Christian truth, not an elevation of subjective over objective truth." ------ Ron Zess (online).

More of Jesus let me learn More of His holy will discern; Spirit of God, my teacher be Showing the things of Christ to me.------ ('More About Jesus', EE Hewitt, 1915)

(1) Have you had the experience of thinking you were being led by God to do something, and it turned out not to be so? What were the consequences? Looking back on it, what could/should have alerted you to this?

(2) What kind of matters have you sought God's guidance about? How has the result surprised you, if it did?

(3) Have you ever used "God's will" as a cover for your own plans or ideas? Are you doing so now? What led you to do it? (Please, don't talk or think about when others have done so; that just breaks down into the blame game. Talk about yourself.)

(4) Take a look at 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21. It says 'Don't quench the Spirit' and 'test all things'.

How do they fit together?

How might these be seen as working against each other?

Have you ever been involved in an activity or a church where one was used to render the other as void? How? Why? Did you take any action?

(5) List the people you would most likely turn to when you're making a tough personal decision? What is it about them that would cause you to turn to them?

(6) For church-goers and cell members : how do the members of your church use each other as a way of discernment?

Tuesday, March 21, 2017

David Sloane's Hour Of Need And Another Opportunity For Harvest Blessing For Those Who Choose To Plant Seed

Hard to believe that I was once nicknamed "Laguna Blue Eyes" when I was in my early 20's by some girls at church.

I was tan and had long sun bleached hair from all the time spent outdoors at the beach surfing etc.

Looking back over the many years of my life I can honestly say that life can have some really hard
spots in it but we all grow and adapt to the changing scenarios.

Each chapter has it's blessings and it's trials.

We make it through each and every trial stepping on the stepping stones of the Word of God to safely get across the trials to the other side of them.

Here are a few supporting stones of  the Word that I have placed down in the waters, over the
many years, of the trials to safely cross to the other side.

 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 
2 Corinthians 12:9

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Philippians 4:13

We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10 We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11 For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12 So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
2 Corinthians Corinthians 4:8-12 


Today I find myself in just another trial.


Another tough spot to get through.

This time I need to reach out and hold on to Savior a bit firmer in my grip of the hem of His garment as well as stepping on the stones of the Word of God to make it through this current trail.

I can honestly say that I am not afraid.

As my wife and I sat in the office of my "Dr. House" type Urologist, he calmly told us, while sitting in a chair in the corner, that my biopsy came back and it confirmed that I had prostrate cancer which had spread to my hip lymph nodes and into my bones.

Since it was stage four he was not recommending removal of  the tumor which was exploding out the side of my enlarged prostrate gland.

It would only help spread the cancer more so in the condition.

I could hear my wife behind me cry.

But as for me, my immediate thought was, "No this trial ain't gonna take me out!"

I just did not feel the gloom of the situation my Doc and my wife were expressing at that moment.

I examined my reaction and there was no defeat or sense of "so this is it."

I knew that I had the victory through Jesus Christ who has sustained me through every other trial I had faced in the past.

Many was the time I would have died had Christ not been there to keep me safe from harm.

Way back in 1974 I was standing on the driveway of a new home being built in Laguna Beach on Cleo Street just back of the Taco Bell on Coast Highway.

I was talking with Tony Meston, the electrician on the job who I was working for at that time.

I heard a voice in my head say, "Take two steps side ways."

As I was pondering the voice it said it again, only this time more emphatically than the first time.

So I immediately took the two steps side ways.

No sooner than having done that a twenty eight ounce, serrated head, framing hammer slammed into the ground right where I had been standing!

It would have made a bulls eye right directly on the top of my scull had I remained standing where I was seconds before.


I would have died from the impact that moment, for you see that hammer had been dropped from the top of the second story of the house.

Tony looked at me in astonishment and said, "how did you know that was going to happen?"

Another time my wife and I were driving on the freeway when a kid in a green old mustang plowed into a big tractor trailer rig a few yards in front of us.

We were headed right smack into the middle of the fiery crash at 70 miles an hour and it was a few seconds before impact.

I said, "brace your self" to my wife as we approached.

We were going to be involved in an inescapable fiery tomb for sure.

Suddenly we are 100 yards on the other side of the crash!

As I found myself viewing the explosion in my rear view mirror and listening to my wife exclaim, "How did you do that?" I was wondering that myself.

We definitely had not driven through, it would not have even been possible.

We got translated to another location in nano seconds by God's hand.

One of the places in the Bible that I see the same instant transportation is here:

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
Acts 8:26-40 

When I was doing my Holy Land Tour in Jerusalem in 1976 I sat at the dinner table with an elder/usher from Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa CA.

( We were blessed to be able to stay on the Mount Of Olives in the Intercontinental Hotel, which was an incredible hotel with Mediterranean style breakfast.)  

The man had a Hugh waxed handle bar mustash that curled at the ends like a barber shop quartet dude.

We were talking about supernatural things that he and Pastor Chuck Smith and the "boys" talked about behind closed doors.

One story I will always remember that he had told me was when he was in the navy during WW2.

He was stationed on board a battle ship in the pacific.

He said that he was on deck when a Japanese plane flew overhead and dropped a bomb exactly over the smoke stack of the battle ship, he knew he was seconds from death.

Suddenly he is standing on a near by island with one other sailor.   

Their clothing is dry.

He looks out over the ocean and he is seeing his ship, as if a film has been re-winded, because he sees the bomb being dropped by the Japanese plane and it falls right down the smoke stack.

 The ship munitions and such explode and in mere seconds the ship sinks and is no longer there.

Only he and the other man were saved by a miracle, standing there safe and sound with no explanation.

Most people today don't believe in miracles.

And He did not do many mighty works there, because of their unbelief.
Matthew 13:58

Jesus comes to His home town of Nazareth and is limited in what He can do there because they did not believe.

Faith is the currency of heaven.

We can't buy anything here on earth with out currency and we can't receive anything from heaven without faith.

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?
2 Corinthians 13:5

 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.
Hebrews 3:19

One man's plea,
The father instantly cried out, "I do believe, but help me overcome my unbelief!"
Mark 9:24

Unbelief is so powerful in it's ability to stop the good things of our God that might bless us.

I have faith that I will be here on earth to finish my ministry and to enjoy watching my grand children grow up.

And I have faith, should the Lord not return just yet, that I will see my grand children's children!

You can enter into my blessings by helping me in my time of financial need.

The Lord will heal me and you have an opportunity for blessing.

A spiritual law we all know about is
You will always harvest what you plant.
Galatians 6:7

Won't you help me to pay my bills since I can not work at the moment?

Will you help me to pay my share of my medical costs that I am incurring?

It is not even a loss to you if you come to my aid.

The Word makes it clear that you can and will "Harvest" if you plant.

I wonder how many of us are like the farmer who sat on the porch and never plants his own fields?

While his neighbors reap bountiful crops he has nothing coming from his barren field because of his own choice to not plant.

All because he never plants.

He does not enter into the blessing.

Galatians  6:2 says, "
2Carry one another’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the Law of Christ."

I certainly have a heavy burden that I can't carry by myself, I need help carrying to make it across this trial I find myself currently in.

If you are one of my faithful readers here is another relative verse:

 However, the one who receives instruction in the word must share in all good things with his instructor. 
Galatians 6:6 

Perhaps you have seen my videos up on YouTube and were blessed by them.

Yes the Lord will provide, but you now have an opportunity to help out a man of God in his hour of need.

My son and my wife have put up a crowdfunding site to help me.

 I am overwhelmed and humbled by all of you who did not hesitate to help me out.

Especially by those who I don't even know who have given to me.

It helps me out if you place this on your face book page.

And it helps me out even more if you ad the "widget" to your face book page or your blog, your website etc.

To date 56 people have shared my crowdfunding site, won't you join them?

Will you share this post with others?

"I looked for someone who might rebuild the wall of righteousness that guards the land. I searched for someone to stand in the gap in the wall so I wouldn't have to destroy the land, but I found no one.

Ezekiel 22:30

 God does look down on us.

He sees your help in rebuilding this wall of righteousness in the land.

He sees us helping one another.

Thank you to all who have given to me, may your gifts be multiplied and returned to you ten fold in your own hour of need should you ever have one.

Even if you don't have an hour of need may you be blessed until you can't can't contain the blessing and it overflows to others.

The Lord is my Shepherd I shall not want.

Nor shall you!


En Agape'
David Sloane
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Peace, Love 

We are going to spend eternity together with Jesus Christ!!!

Praise The Lord Hallelujah. 

Lonnie Frisbee In Scandinavia

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