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Thursday, February 28, 2013

Hard Reality Of The Great All American Burger

 You have resisted even thinking about this. But now that your older and wiser, perhaps it is time to take another look and act accordingly...

Check out these six reasons to rethink eating your burger rare or even eating it.

Watch "Fork over knives" free here on Hulu Plus and learn the actual benefits of putting down that burger.

If you examine the facts I present to you here, I know that you will learn a lot more then you expect. This is your wake up call to rethink what you are eating. As the hippies used to say, "You are what you eat."

Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Eagles Nest Ministries Videos Dr Gary Greenwald

Dr. Gary Greenwald A Modernday Man Of God!

Dr. Gary Greenwald, The Eagle's Nest Minstries

I wanted to talk about something that has been on my mind for a few days. I have been looking over the past in my memory about what I know about Dr. Gary Greenwald of the Eagle's Nest ministries.

I first was introduced to his home by a man named Mike McDonald in the early seventies. We went to see Larry Arthur who lived with Gary I believe. Gary's room was well decorated and was clean and tidy. Larry worked for Gary in his sign company in Tustin at the time.
My next exposure to Gary was his sign company. The same man, Mike, took me to see the sign company. Some of the people who worked there showed me how Gary had revolutionized sign making by using structural foam with plastic overlay for creating letters for exterior signs.

Then I finally met Gary at Dana Point Community Chapel. Jerry Froemmling was the prophetic pastor. Jerry was a man of the Word who taught and was not afraid of the gifts of the Holy Spirit being fully exercised. Jerry actually started his church in South Laguna on Coast Hiway and Victoria street and later moved to the Dana Point community Center. My family attended this church while we lived in Laguna Beach.

Jerry would show Christian movies every Friday night. God would anoint this ministry and heal people. This is when I finally met Gary face to face.

Then awhile later I heard that there was a man showing Christian movies at "Vangard University" in Costa Mesa. And guess what? The man was Gary. Gary had obviously been deeply impressed with Jerry's ministry and replicated it. In 1975 one of his employees attended my home Bible study and gave me a large "D" made out of foam and plastic from Gary's sign shop.

I recall listening to one of my favorite Christian radio stations in the 70's and hearing a program from the Eagle's Nest. Gary had grown and was more polished.

In the 90's my friends and I had discovered Gary again and started to attend his services. Only I was not allowed by some body guard types to approach Gary and say "Hi". Gary had become important?

Just before his death in 1993 I received a prophecy for Gary from Lonnie Frisbee. I tried several times over the years to deliver this prophecy to Gary, and each time the Body guard firewall prevented me.

I finally gave up and quit trying. Gary robbed himself of a blessing from Lonnie. Too bad. I was not about to get to Gary by making an appointment with his office etc...call me stubborn, but if "the man on the street" can not reach a pastor then something is wrong.

Lonnie believed in Gary and respected him. He acknowledged that Gary was truly blessed with a ministry of miracles!

I watched Gary take faith and move forward in ministry. I watched Gary struggle through some hard places in life. Gary believed in his ministry and has the fruit to back it up. I place Gary in the same league as Lonnie Frisbee and Brant Baker.

He is still among us...
Who knows fully what the Holy Spirit will do through his yielded life?

While I have since given up trying to deliver Lonnie's message to Gary, I will tell you this part of the message: "Gary, don't 'touch the gold.' (Lonnie never touched the gold).

Now to my main point here...Lonnie Frisbee, Brant Baker, Greg Laurie and Gary Greenwald all had something in common. They were all able to not look at themselves, but unto Jesus Christ and His promises over their lives. They were able to believe that God could move through themselves inspite of themselves.

They all had learned to yield to the Holy Spirit.

If you enter into The Eagles Nest, you will first experience the powerful overshadowing presence of God Almighty.

Then you realize that the congregation has a very unusual high level of faith.

Jesus is hindered in His ministry to others when people harbor unbelief.

Matthew 13:58And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Mark 6:6And he marvelled because of their unbelief.

You see, Gary has this God given ability to raise the level of faith in people everywhere. 

The net result is that miracles do happen.

 I love the atmosphere of The Eagle's Nest. It is uplifting and encouraging. The congregation is ultra friendly and spiritually healthy.

If you need a miracle or a touch from God, by all means, get to The Eagle's Nest. Your chances of receiving your miracle are greater there then in some 'Bible teaching' environments.

No matter how good a pulpit is at the theoretical and academic things of God, there is always the need to bring God's people out of unbelief and into the positive position of believing.

The Bible is not only for explaining, but for believing.

Gary believe's in his calling. He has had God take him down to death's door to get his attention. The lesson was not wasted on him. This anointed man of God gets it, he understands.

The only thing possibly holding him back is what Lonnie told me, "I hope he doesn't touch the gold..."

Eagle's Nest Ministries Phone:

 (949) 724.8803

(949) 724-9182



Sundays @ 6PM
Tuesdays @ 7PM

Location Address:
New Song Church
2850 East Mesa Verde Drive
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Costa Mesa, CA 92626

Shekinah Fellowship: Adam/ Eagles Nest Ministries/ Dr.Gary Greenwald#links

England Web Cam Of The Crossing At Abbey Road

Abbey Road Studios Live Web Cam

The Beatles last album as a group had a picture of them crossing here. Today you can see people crossing there still...you get live video feed of the tourist taking pictures of themselves on a busy street. Don't know why it is so fascinating to watch, but it is...


Update: They are redoing their website so until they get it right, you can view the web cam here.

 Guess what the original name of the album was supposed to be - Everest.  As in Mt. Everest.  They were supposed to fly to Nepal and have their photo taken there. "So Ringo said, 'Why don't we just shoot the cover outside and call it Abbey Road?' Like many a Ringo suggestion, it won out."

 Rather than go to
all the trouble, they just decided to go outside, have their photo taken in the street, and call it Abbey Road.
During the recording of what was to be their swan song, The Beatles toyed with several titles, and Everest, a reference to the brand of cigarettes their chief engineer, Geoff Emerick, smoked, was the favorite.

The cover photo was one of 6 taken by Scottish photographer Iain Macmillan, friend of John and Yoko Lennon, who had previously worked with Yoko on some of her off beat art projects.  The police blocked the street while the Fab Four walked back and forth across the street during mid-day break on August 8, 1969.  It was over in a few minutes, but the resulting photograph made the "zebra walk" the most famous in the world and a major tourist attraction in London. The picture was taken outside the Abbey Road recording studios at 11.35 am on August 8, 1969 for the cover of the Beatles final album.

It was the first Beatles album to use 8 tracks in the recording process – when you look at what was created before Abbey Road – Let It Be, Sgt. Pepper’s, the White Album, you can see why this album was sonically and acoustically superior. "The group was disintegrating before my eyes. It was ugly, like watching a divorce between four people" Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick, on the mood before Abbey Road, After a while, I had to get out."

"Oh, it was a nightmare. I was becoming physically sick just thinking of going to the studio each night. I used to love working with the band. By that point, I dreaded it. Getting out was the only thing I could do."

A year later, however, he was drawn back to work with Martin and The Beatles with the promise that the band would be on their best behavior. Emerick missed a few sessions for the album that would eventually rename EMI Studios, but in the end, he says, "I'm glad I came back for the final bow. To have missed being a part of the Abbey Road album, I'd still be kicking myself."

"After Let It Be, which I understand was not very pleasant for anybody, Paul was very keen to make a record the way the band used to. He wanted George Martin and I behind the console and everybody working together. He said things would be better than what they had been."
Did you take Paul at his word, that there would be a spirit of harmony?
"Yes, I did take him at his word. And John said the same thing to George Martin. In the back of my head I might have had some reservations, like, 'Well, we'll see…' But I was surprised and pleased at how everybody got along."

Did you have any idea while you were cutting Abbey Road that it would be The Beatles' last album? Was anything said to that effect?
"I didn't think it would be the last one. And nothing was said to indicate that, at least not to me. As far as I understood it, we'd be working on another record in the new studio I was building at Apple. The band was getting along better. The mood wasn't bubbly and fun all the time, but it was a hell of a lot better than during the previous year.
"The only hint they gave me or anybody was on the album cover, where they're walking across the street. For people who don't know the geography, they're actually walking away from the EMI Studios - or Abbey Road, as everybody knows it now. This was intentional on their part - they didn't want to be seen as walking toward the studio. When I saw that photo, I did think to myself, 'They're sending a message.'
"By that time, they'd been literally incarcerated at EMI. They grew to truly hate the place. It certainly wasn't the most luxurious studio in the world. It was cold and quite uncomfortable, and EMI was always quite slow to embrace new technologies - we were the last to get four-track and eight-track recording decks. In fact, Abbey Road was the first album where I got to use an eight-track console."

I'm curious: The Beatles were the biggest band in the world - still are, really. Couldn't they have told EMI, "We want a better consoles, better accommodations"?

"No, it was against the rules at EMI. I remember at one point they wanted some covered lights in Studio Two, a bit of mood lighting, and the word they got back was 'We can't do that sort of thing.' So the band ended up setting up their own little area in Studio Two, with little lamps of their own and things to make it more homey."

"You could really see the joy in their faces as they played; it was like they were teenagers again. One take was all we needed. The musical telepathy between them was mind-boggling."

The question, though, is who would want to buy Abbey Road? It's no secret that competition for studio bookings is now fierce - let's not forget that it's now possible to make a decent-sounding record in your bedroom with Garage Band etc - so making money from the studio could be difficult.
Whoever does take ownership of Abbey Road, though, will be getting their hands on a sizeable slice of recording history, and that's got to be worth something...

Let it be.

Tuesday, February 26, 2013

One of my oldest friends just sent me these pictures. That is my dog James that I was given when he was only 4 weeks old. James lived to be 13. I fed him Kal Kan dog food his whole life exclusively. He eventually got a cancerous tumor on his neck and I had to put him down. I was in deep pain for 3 months solid after that.
This is a picture of me at 19 years old. A typical Jesus Freak of the day. I turn 62 this month. Life has passed so quickly. I lost a friend that I have known since I was thirteen just last week. Makes you reflect on your own existence.
The one thing that I miss the most is the genuine moving of the Holy Spirit. Not the 'pretend' moving of the Holy Spirit, but the really real event. Those were some of the best times of my life. Every second of every day was so full of divine appointments!
Today I see a dead church full of it's self. Pretending that nothing has changed. As if it still had it. But those of us who were in on the last truly great outpouring of the Spirit of God know better. We just can not be fooled.
You never forget the real deal once you have experienced it.
While I helped build the Calvary Chapel mother ship back in 72 James was always there with me. Everyone knew and loved that sweet collie. He was so alive and ready to chase after anything that was thrown.
James was never around non~Christians for the first four years of his life. I would work at Calvary Chapel with him during the day and be around Christians during the night. One day someone at work came up to me and said, "David, James is freaking out on a man around the corner."
I went there to see what was up. James was stiff and all bristled up and barking loudly at the man whom he had cornered against a wall. Turns out that the man was a non~Christian who had wandered onto the job site looking for someone to ask when the apts would be finished. James had never seen a non~Christian before and instinctively knew something was not right with him!
I told the man that we were building a place for Christians to meet together and worship Jesus Christ.
I got the privilege of leading him to the Lord Jesus. How weird that James made a distinction between saved and unsaved people.
I hope that I will see James again one day. There are animals in heaven, Jesus is mentioned riding a white horse in the Bible.
Thanks Tony Meston for the memories!
Love David

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The Future Isn't What It Used to Be
Back in 1972, a futurist children's author named Geoffrey Hoyle wrote a book about the amazing future -- the future in the year 2010.
Unfortunately, he got just about everything wrong. He did predict a universal "vision phone," which works more or less like video chat over the Internet. The book tells kids in 2010 more about 1972, than it did kids in 1972 about 2010.
Way back in 1972, in Laguna Beach CA, I met a girl named Debby who had a very close friend named Becky.
Debby and Becky had recently gotten saved when I met Debby, I never found out any details from them of their testimony, at that time.

Debby had given me a cassette tape that her friend had given to her her. I was amazed at the professional quality of Becky's singing and 12 string guitar playing. Eventually Becky moved down to southern CA and married one of the local boys at Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa. Maranatha Music heard Becky and cut an album of her songs that I had already heard on that tape. Only on the album the music was greatly enhanced.

Someone said this about the album:

"Mix of light acoustic, folkrock, country, light rock and soft jazz from a gal who sounds a little like Anne Murray. Becky Ugartechea (pronounced u-gar-te-shea-a) plays acoustic guitar and writes all her own material. On the debut she’s assisted by a slew of Maranatha regulars, plus some bgvs courtesy of 2nd Chapter Of Acts. Pleasant relaxing sound, lots of different instruments, no gushy strings or overproduction. ‘Glory And Honor’ and ‘Never Knew How Happy’ are both moody soft-rocking pieces, the latter enriched by electric guitar and swirling flute. Other noteworthy songs are ‘Son Of The Living God’, ‘Simple Joy’ (a mandolin-backed country melody), the torch ballad ‘Take All The Lonely Times’, and ‘There Is Love’ with its sleek jazz-rock groove and lustrous electric guitar solo. The album title is a translation of her last name. Scenic cover painting by Kernie Erickson. A fitting companion to early Jamie Owens, Honeytree and Karen Lafferty."


01. Who's the Master
02. Never Knew How Happy
03. Son of the Living God
04. Take All the Lonely Times
05. Driftin'
06. Simple Joy
07. He'll Lift You Up
08. There Is Love
09. Glory and Honor
10. Now Is the Time

This album is one of the finest that Marantha had ever released.


"If you've ever wondered how it's possible that you pay more to the IRS than General Electric,http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_print.html
Forbes has an explanation. You, my friend, do not have the tax benefit of overseas operations. Microsoft, for example, has its overseas subsidiaries license software to its US parent company in return for handsome royalties that get taxed at lower overseas rates. Exxon limits its tax pain with the help of 20 wholly owned subsidiaries domiciled in the Bahamas, Bermuda, and the Cayman Islands that shelter cash flow from operations in the likes of Angola, Azerbaijan, and Abu Dhabi. As a result, of the $15B it paid in income taxes last year,
Exxon paid none of it to Uncle Sam, and has tens of billions in earnings permanently reinvested overseas. Likewise, GE has $84B in overseas income parked indefinitely outside the US. Now quit your carping and get back to filling out that 1040!"

I Believe In Women

Are Women In Ministry In The Bible?

As you know, the Greek word APOSTOLOS translated apostle means "one sent forth," a sent one.

A true apostle is always "one with a commission" - not one who merely goes, but one who is sent.
A missionary who is really called of God and sent by the Holy Ghost is an apostle.

What marks do we look for in an apostle today?

1. Outstanding spiritual gifts.
2. Deep personal experience.
3. Power and ability to establish churches.
4. Able to provide adequate spiritual leadership.

If a woman meets this list then what are we to think of her.

Exodus 15:24: Miriam, the daughter of Aaron was a prophet and one of the triad of leaders of Israel during the Exodus from Egypt.

Judges 4 & 5: Deborah, a prophet-judge, headed the army of ancient Israel.

2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chronicles 34:22 Huldah, a prophet, verified the authenticity of the "Book of the Law of the Lord given through Moses" - the Book of Deuteronomy. She triggered a religious renewal.

Acts 9:36 The author of Luke referred to a female disciple of Jesus by her Aramaic name Tabitha, who was also known by her Greek name Dorcas. She became sick, had died; St. Peter brought her back to life.

Acts 21:8: Philip the evangelist had four unmarried daughters who were prophets. Philippians 4:2: Paul refers to two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as his co-workers who were active evangelicals, spreading the gospel.

Romans 16:1: Paul refers to Phoebe as a minister or deacon of the church at Cenchrea. The Greek word which describes her function is "diakonos" which means literally "official servant."
She is the only deacon in the Bible to be identified by name. Some translations say deaconess; others try to obscure her position by mistranslating the Greek as a simple "servant" or "helper". Paul later refers to Phoebe as a woman, calling her "our sister." This prevented later church leaders from hiding her gender as they did with Junia in Romans 16:7 below - by changing her name and implying that she was a man.

Romans 16:3: Paul refers to Priscilla as another of his "fellow workers in Christ Jesus" (NIV) Other translations refer to her as a "co-worker". But other translations attempt to downgrade her status by calling her a "helper". The original Greek word is "synergoi", which literally means "fellow worker" or "colleague."

It is worth noting that Paul refers to Priscilla and her husband as "Priscilla and Aquila" in this passage and as "Aquila and Priscilla" in 1 Corinthians 16:19. It would appear that the order is not important to Paul. As in Galatians 3:28, he apparently believed that there is no distinction among those who have been baptized into Christ between male and female.

Romans 16:7: Paul refers to a male apostle, Andronicus, and a female apostle, Junia, as "outstanding among the apostles" (NIV) Every Greek and Latin church Father until Giles of Rome (circa 1000 CE) acknowledged that Junia was a woman. 2,3 After that time, various writers and translators of the Bible resorted to deceptions in order to suppress her gender. For example:

The Amplified Bible translates this passage as "They are men held in high esteem among the apostles" The Revised Standard Version shows it as "they are men of note among the apostles". The reference to them both being men does not appear in the original Greek text. The word "men" was simply inserted by the translators, apparently because the translators' minds recoiled from the concept of a female apostle.

Many translations, including the Amplified Bible, Rheims New Testament, New American Standard Bible, and the New International Version simply picked the letter "s" out of thin air, and converted the original "Junia" (a woman's name) into "Junias" (a man's). Again, it was probably inconceivable to the translators that Paul would recognize a woman as an apostle.

There are many Gospels and other early Christian writings that never made it into the official canon. Some shed light of the role of women in various early Christian groups:

The Christian Gnostic tradition represented one of the three main forms of early Christianity - the others being Jewish Christianity and Pauline Christianity. Gnostic texts show that women held senior roles as teachers, prophets and missionaries. They conducted rituals such as baptism and the Eucharist. They performed exorcisms.

The Gospel of Philip, was widely used among early Christian congregations. It portrayed Mary Magdalene as the companion of Jesus, in a position of very high authority within the early Christian movement.

The Gospel of Mary described Mary Magdalene as a leader of Jesus' disciples. She delivering a passionate sermon to the disciples after his resurrection. This raised their spirits and inspired them to evangelize the known world.

Philoumene, a woman, headed a Christian theological school in Rome during the second century CE.

...Paul mentioned 40 names in his letters...and talked about the big missionary enterprise of which there are dozens of people or participants... Of those 40 people, 16 are women. That's a considerable proportion of women involved in the Pauline missionary effort." Helmut Koestler 4

...it is not admissible to ordain women to the priesthood, for very fundamental reasons. These reasons include: the example recorded in the Sacred Scriptures of Christ choosing his Apostles only from among men; the constant practice of the Church, which has imitated Christ in choosing only men; and her living teaching authority which has consistently held that the exclusion of women from the priesthood is in accordance with God's plan for his Church." Pope Paul VI 8

Fact be told...women are living souls just the same as men...and God looks at the heart, not the sex genes.

As in so many religious beliefs, we see a major split between conservative and liberal Christians concerning female ordination:

Many conservative Christian denominations allow only men to be ordained. A major support for this decision is Paul's statement in 1 Timothy 2:11-15 in which the author did "not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." Further, 1 Timothy 3:2 specifies that overseers and deacons must be men. Finally, 1 Corinthians 14:34b-35 states that women must be silent and in submission when in church. If they want to clarify some theological point, they should wait and approach their husband at home.
Any of these statements would totally preclude women becoming ministers or pastors. Much of their opposition to equal treatment of women is derived from their concept of the inerrancy of the official canon of the Bible. Most believe that such books as Timothy and Titus were written by Paul prior to his death circa 65 CE.

Many liberal theologians note that:

In the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament), women's roles were highly restricted; they rarely held positions of power; they were often considered as property by their "owners" -- their fathers and husbands.

Jesus violated 1st century customs in Palestine by generally treating men and women as equals. Of the dozen or so individuals who made up Jesus' inner circle, about half were women.

Paul appears to have also treated women in the early Christian movement as equals, as co-workers, and as deserving of positions of authority, including the ministry.

An equally valid translation of 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is "I do not permit a wife to teach or to have authority over her husband..."
Through the use of Biblical criticism, liberal theologians have dated the books 1 Timothy and Titus to 100 to 150 CE. That is perhaps a half century after Paul's death. 1 Timothy 1:1, and Titus 1:1 declare that Paul was their author. Religious liberals consider the books to be clearly pseudonymous (written under an assumed name). The true author is unknown. Some theologians theorize that the books might have been written partly to counteract Paul's acceptance of women as equals, and to justify the church's gradual slide into a male-dominated institution.

Liberals would argue that the policies of Jesus and Paul in the area of gender equality are a higher standard than the oppression of women which is expressed in the Hebrew Scriptures and in some of the pseudonymous epistles. They believe that the present North American secular standard should be followed with respect to female ordination. They would prefer to abandon the restrictions on women that were implemented within Christendom, starting in the late 1st century CE.

Until the early years of the 20th century, very few Christian faith groups allowed women to be ordained. Since then, most of the liberal denominations have accepted female ministers and pastors. Mainline denominations followed. Very conservative denominations generally do not. The historical trend appears obvious - it may be just a matter of time before almost all denominations will remove their gender barrier, and finally match the rest of society.

Acts 9:36: Paul refers to a woman (Tabitha in Aramaic, Dorcas in Greek, Gazelle in English) as a disciple.

Acts 18:24-26 describes how Priscilla, a woman, and Aquila, her husband, both acted in the role of an official pastor to a man from Alexandria, called Apollos. Various translations of the Bible imply that they taught him in the synagogue (Amplified Bible, King James Version, Rheims, New American Standard, New American, New Revised Standard). However, the New International Version has an unusual translation of this passage. The NIV states that the teaching occurred in Priscilla's and Aquila's home.

Romans 16:1: This chapter is apparently unrelated to chapter 15 and to the rest of the book. It appears to be an independent note that has been attached to the epistle to the Romans. It starts with a letter of recommendation which introduces Phoebe to a group of people associated with the church at Corinth. Paul refers to her as a "deacon in the sense of a preacher, a minister, because Paul uses the same word for himself. He calls himself, in a number of instances, a deacon of the new covenant in 2 Corinthians." 4 It is often translated "deaconess" or "servant" or "helper" in English translations - perhaps in order to disguise her true status. The same Greek word appears in Ephesians 6:21 where it refers to a male and is normally translated "minister." It also appears in 2 Corinthians where Paul used the word to refer to himself.

Dr. Helmut Koester comments: "Most of the persons named in this list are not simply personal friends of Paul in the church of Ephesus, but associates and co-workers. This is shown by the repeated references to their functions. The fact that such a large number of women appears in this list is clear and undeniable evidence for the unrestricted participation of women in the offices of the church in the Pauline congregations."

Romans 16:3: Paul refers to Priscilla, a woman, as another of his "fellow workers in Christ Jesus" (NIV) Other translations refer to her as a "co-worker". But still other translations attempt to downgrade her status by calling her a simple "helper". The original Greek word is "synergoi", which literally means "fellow worker" or "colleague."

Romans 16:7: Paul refers to a male apostle, Andronicus and a female apostle, Junia, as "outstanding among the apostles" (NIV) The Amplified Bible translates this passage as "They are men held in high esteem among the apostles."

The Revised Standard Version shows it as "they are men of note among the apostles." The reference to them both being men does not appear in the original Greek text. "Men" was simply inserted by the translators - we suspect because the their minds recoiled from the concept of a female apostle.

Many translations, including the Amplified Bible, Rheims New Testament, New American Standard Bible, and the New International Version simply picked the letter "s" out of thin air. They converted the original "Junia" (a woman's name) into "Junias" (which they considered a man's name) in order to erase all reference to a female apostle.

Junia was first converted into a man only in the "13th century, when Aegidius of Rome (1245-1316) referred to both Andronicus and Junia as "honorable men."5 One source 4 refers to Hans Lietzmann who studied names used in ancient times. He found no evidence that "Junias" was ever used as a man's name. "Junias" might possibly have been used as a short form for "Junianus," which did exist. But there are no references to it in antiquity. It appears obvious that Junia was definitely an outstanding female apostle, and that many Bible translators have been trying to suppress this information.

1 Corinthians 1:11: Chloe is mentioned as the owner of a house where Christian meetings were held. There is some ambiguity as to whether the women actually led the house church or merely owned the building. Similar passages mention, with the same ambiguity:

The mother of Mark in Acts 12:12, and

Lydia in Acts 16:14-5, and 40, and

Nympha in Colossians 4:15.

1 Corinthians 11:3: "...Christ is the head of every man, and a husband the head of his wife, and the head of Christ is God. (NIV)" Conservative Christians often quote this passage as proof that a husband should retain full authority over his wife in family matters. This concept of women being in an inferior power position might logically be extended to the church organization as well. Some liberal Christians note that the Greek word translated "head" is "kephale", which can be interpreted in two ways: "having authority over," or alternately "source" or "origin." Looking at verses 3 to 12, each interpretation looks equally valid. The former would support rejection of women in positions of authority; the latter would not.

1 Corinthians 11:7-9: "For a man...is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head." (NIV)

Paul is attempting to give an explanation why women should cover their hair while in church. This passage is often quoted by conservative theologians to justify the inferior position assigned to women and thus deny them access to positions of power in churches. Liberals might point out that this passage is largely ignored in practice; most women today do not cover their hair during church services. Also, it does not appear to say anything about female ordination.

1 Corinthians 14:34b-35: "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says, If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." (NIV) There are many interpretations of this short passage:

Many conservative theologians accept this passage in its plain and literal meaning and interpret it as prohibiting all talking by women during services in every society, forever. This would of course prohibit a woman from accepting a position of pastor, minister or priest.

Bible scholar Hans Conzelmann concluded that this passage is a forgery*, inserted into St. Paul's original text by an unknown writer. (1) Thus, it cannot be regarded as the writing of Paul. The verses were not in the original version, and thus cannot be considered inerrant. He cites a number of reasons for this conclusion:

this passage contradicts Chapter 11:5 where women are described as taking an active role in church assemblies by praying and prophesying during services. Either the above passage or 11:5 must be invalid.

there are "peculiarities of linguistic usage, and of thought" in this passage which are not found in the rest of the Epistle
bullet the passage "spoils the flow of thought" and "interrupts the theme of prophesy." There is a discontinuity between verse 36 and 37. Verse 37 links up neatly with verse 33a.

If verses 34b to 36 are simply removed, then the chapter flows smoothly, as it was probably originally intended to do. The forgery* was rather crudely done.

Others point out that Paul would hardly cite the Torah (the Law) as justification for restricting roles of women; his entire ministry involved the exact opposite: he preached liberation from the Law.

Some Biblical scholars say that Paul is here describing divisive practices being promoted by the Jewish Christians in Corinth - those who believed in Jesus as Lord while still following the Torah. They were generating discord by teaching that "As in the synagogues, women should remain silent.....as the Torah says."

That is, they wanted to translate synagogue practice, as defined by the Torah, into the Christian assemblies. Women were not allowed to speak in synagogues, so they should not be allowed to speak in Christian assemblies. Paul follows up this passage with verse 15 which severely criticizes the Jewish Christians for this position by asking "Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" From this interpretation, restriction on women, as taught by the Torah, should be rejected; men and women should be treated equally with respect to their behavior and roles in church.

Still others point out that the purpose of 1 Corinthians was to answer a number of questions raised by the Church at Corinth. Paul's style was to write a brief quotation supplied by a Corinthian Christian, and then respond to it. Verses 3:1, 5:1, 6:1, 7:1, 8:1 are some examples.
Following this same pattern, Verse 14:33b to 14:35 is not a comment by Paul. Rather it may be a question raised by a Corinthian who objected to women speaking in church.

The church member may have asked: "As in all of the synagogues of the holy ones, women should remain silent in the synagogues. They are not allowed to speak but must be in submission, as the Torah says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the synagogue."

Paul would then have responded with an attack in Verses 36 - 38, and concludes the chapter with Verse 39, an instruction from the Lord to his "brothers and sisters" to be eager to prophesy, but in a fitting and orderly way. All that is required to come up with this translation is to rearrange the original Greek slightly. Ancient Greek was written without punctuation marks, divisions into sentences or spaces between words. This leads to a single passage having many different interpretations.

Others speculate that St. Paul is restricting the roles of women, but referring to:
a temporary problem of a local nature at the church at Corinth

women chattering during services

women interrupting services with emotional outbursts

women speaking about certain specific items in church

Still others regard the passage as an indicator of St. Paul's poor regard for women, which originated in his Greek and Jewish background and was not overcome by his religious conversion to Christianity.

That is, it was an expression of his personal beliefs and can be safely overlooked in the present day. Just as we have learned to ignore Biblical passages regarding slavery, passages concerning women covering their hair in church, passages prohibiting certain types of jewelry, we should learn to recognize the evil of Paul's sexism and recognize that this passage should be disregarded.

1 Corinthians 16:3: Paul refers to two, a married couple: Priscilla and her husband Aquila as his fellow workers in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (NIV) This is perhaps the most famous passage in the New Testament that assigns equal status to individuals of both genders (and all races, nationalities and slave status). Some religious conservatives believe that this equality refers only to salvation and not to status.

Philippians 4:2: Paul refers to two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as his co-workers who were active evangelists, spreading the gospel.

This study could go on, but you get the point.

Women are living souls with minds and hearts and spirits just the same as men. No one is self generated. No one can minister outside of God's anointing upon their life. A male apostle relys upon God for his anointing. A woman can and does rely upon God for her anointing!

The idea that women are less then men is ridiculous! It is only the container that we are in that determines our sex. Paul refers to this container as a "tent." Our human body is only a "space~suit" that allows us to function on this earthly plane. Its sexual orientation has nothing to do what~so~ever with our living soul that Christ died for.


The Way

Remember Those Wonderful Jesus People Days?

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Jesus Christ Son Of God Son Of Man

John 8:28Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he...

John 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

The Jesus People of the sixties were very successful in evangelism because they were not pointing to any 'brand name' church or organization of any sort initially. They were not speaking to anyone about a religion or of their way of living life.

No. They told anyone that would listen about the person of Jesus Christ. They told people about His great love for them and how He had died for their sins on a cross. And that Jesus wanted them to accept that fact and be born again. They earnestly proclaimed "Jesus Loves You" to others and then told the Good News of the Gospel message.

Then slowly that all changed as many older well intentioned men of God took them in and started to organize them and train them in their angle points of the 'Christian experience.'

The message thereafter, that they told others, was altered to 'Come to our church, you will like it. You will be amazed at our Bible teacher etc...

They left the simple lifting up of Jesus before others and became extensions of what ever group had accepted them. They begun to lift up their particular fellowship or church to others. No longer were the Jesus People a cohesive family of lovers of Jesus Christ. They had become loyal to their particular brand of Christianity and therefore their message reflected that.

Soon the Jesus People Movement waned and sputtered out until all that was left were differing denominations, fellowships, groups and gatherings. The message on the street was a subtle "Where do you fellowship?" If you did not attend one of the 'approved' factions you were given the left foot of fellowship booting out...

The awesome untrained family of the Jesus People that had evangelized the highways and byways of life freely were now educated and would not receive another if they were not of their particular stream of churchianity or doctrinal persuasion.

They left behind, Romans 12:5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 1 Corinthians 10:17For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. 1 Corinthians 12:13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:20But now are they many members, yet but one body. Ephesians 4:4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;Colossians 3:15And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

It is a sad fact of history that when Christians are persecuted they tend to lower their sectarian walls and restrictions and only then recognize one another as being in the same family of God, the Body of Christ. Then they will lift up Jesus Christ before others.

Do you want results in evangelism? Then lift up Jesus Christ and He will draw all unto Himself. So simple a child can do it. Leave behind the message of how wonderful and great your fellowship or church or group is and share Jesus Christ the Son of God Son of Man!

John 10:30I and my Father are one.

John 17:22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Romans 12:5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

1 Corinthians 3:8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

1 Corinthians 12:12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

1 John 5:7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Good News Today

"Now the gospel (which means “good news”) is truly Good News. It announces that what God rightly requires of us has already been done. Jesus has done it all. Indeed, he himself said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). Narrowly construed, good news is that Jesus is the righteous one. We become righteous not through our doing or obeying but only by trusting, resting in, and receiving Jesus and his righteousness for us (Titus 2:14). “Abraham believed God and it was imputed to him as righteousness” (Gen 15:6). “The righteous shall live by faith” (Rom 1). The good news is an announcement of what God has done in Christ, that salvation has come, that death has been conquered, that Jesus kept the law, that he paid the penalty, that he has been raised from the dead, and that he is ascended at the right hand of the Father where he reigns. That’s good news. "
R. Scott Clark

Monday, February 25, 2013

I know some good "Christians" who whole heartily endorsed this. I was appalled when I learned of their stance and position on this. I thought, "How in the world can any Christian think that this is ok?" I wondered if this is something that Jesus would do to anyone under any circumstances? Some obviously believed that He would and should. What was it that Jesus Himself has said...

 Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

 I never had a hard time coming to terms on this issue in question . It was always cut and dried for me. It is evil and it is not from the Holy Spirit, therefore where does it stem from would be the obvious question to ask.

Saturday Night Live did a skit where Jesus returns from the grave and goes after the Romans with a vengeance. Christians were in an uproar and emailed each other back and forth about their indignation and signed petitions to get advertisers to abandon SNL. But where was their outcry over the real world evil that humans were doing to other humans?

Norwegian prison where inmates are treated like people has the lowest reoffending rate in Europe

 Conan O'Brien Fully Exposes Mainstream Media Programing Of Us



"'At this very moment, researchers around the world – including in the United States – are working to develop fully autonomous war machines: killer robots. This is not science fiction. It is a real and powerful threat to humanity.' These are the first words of a Human Rights Watch Petition to Presdient Obama to keep robots from the battlefield. The argument is that robots possess neither common sense, 'real' reason, any sense of mercy nor — most important — the option to not obey illegal commands. What with the fast-spreading use of drones et al. , we are allegedly a long way off from Asimov's famous Three Laws of Robotics being implanted in autonomous fighting machines, or into any ( semi- ) autonomous robot. A 'Stop the Killer Robots' campaign will also be launched in April at the British House of Commons and includes many of the groups that successfully campaigned to have international action taken against cluster bombs and landmines. They hope to get a similar global treaty against autonomous weapons. The Guardian has more about this, including quotes from well-known robotics researcher Noel Sharkey from Sheffield University."

Sunday, February 24, 2013

Six of Hanfords nuclear waste tanks leaking badly...
"A recent review of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington state (where the bulk of Cold War nuclear material was created) has found that six of its underground storage tanks are leaking badly. Estimations say each tank is leaking 'anywhere from a few gallons to a few hundred gallons of radioactive material a year.' Washington's governor, Jay Inslee, said in a statement on Friday, 'Energy officials recently figured out they had been inaccurately measuring the 56 million gallons of waste in Hanford's tanks.' The Hanford cleanup project has been one of the most expensive American projects for nuclear cleanup. Plans are in place to create a treatment plant to turn the hazardous material into less hazardous glass (proposed to cost $13.4 billion), but for now officials are trying just to stop the leaking from the corroded tanks. Today the leaks do not have an immediate threat on the environment, but 'there is [only] 150 to 200 feet of dry soil between the tanks and the groundwater,' and they are just five miles from the Colombia River."

Regulations? This was a government-run site!
As to funding, they are actively cleaning up the site.
Oversight is another mystery - the cleanup is being done by a collaboration between the Department of Energy, the EPA, and Washington State. You have 3 distinct agencies from both state and federal governments "overseeing" the project. Unbelievably, the responses so far are that the government wasn't being overseen by enough other government. Of course, then you need government to oversee the government that oversees the government.

 "The rules for papal elections are steeped in tradition. John Paul II last codified them in 1996, and Benedict XVI left the rules largely untouched. The 'Universi Dominici Gregis on the Vacancy of the Apostolic See and the Election of the Roman Pontiff' is surprisingly detailed. Now as the College of Cardinals prepares to elect a new pope, security people like Bruce Schneier wonder about the process. How does it work, and just how hard would it be to hack the vote? First, the system is entirely manual, making it immune to the sorts of technological attacks that make modern voting systems so risky. Second, the small group of voters — all of whom know each other — makes it impossible for an outsider to affect the voting in any way. The chapel is cleared and locked before voting. No one is going to dress up as a cardinal and sneak into the Sistine Chapel. In short, the voter verification process is about as good as you're ever going to find. A cardinal can't stuff ballots when he votes. Then the complicated paten-and-chalice ritual ensures that each cardinal votes once — his ballot is visible — and also keeps his hand out of the chalice holding the other votes. Ballots from previous votes are burned, which makes it harder to use one to stuff the ballot box. What are the lessons here? First, open systems conducted within a known group make voting fraud much harder. Every step of the election process is observed by everyone, and everyone knows everyone, which makes it harder for someone to get away with anything. Second, small and simple elections are easier to secure. This kind of process works to elect a pope or a club president, but quickly becomes unwieldy for a large-scale election. And third: When an election process is left to develop over the course of a couple of thousand years, you end up with something surprisingly good."

 Billboard Converts Desert Air Into Drinking Water